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SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
Hey, everyone. Welcome to Adobe live Winter Games edition. How's everyone today? I see we already have people in Chat talking about Comic Papyrus. Thank you, Alex.
ALEX LAZARIS:
Yeah, thank you, Steve, for hopping in Chat asking the heavy hitting questions early on in the stream, like how much Comic Papyrus should be using.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
Am I'm really disappointed in you right now?
ALEX LAZARIS:
Yeah, I've been trying to not laugh through the whole intro. So without further ado, let Shawna take it away.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
Well, okay. Anyways, I'm not going to be able to take any of this seriously now. I want to thank everyone for being here today. We're going to have a lot of fun. I am your host, Shauna Lynn, and I'm here with the very talented Alex Lazaris, also known as Laz. So I will just bounce between I feel like I've never called you Alex, so you're just going to get called Laz the whole time.
ALEX LAZARIS:
That's probably more for.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
And you know, Chat's very excited to see Val's already here and Val goes and there's already been a name drop. Yeah. And Val says, we will not be focusing on such font. Thank you, Val. Thank you. And oh, no, Annika says memes.
ALEX LAZARIS:
Yeah, memes. I was actually know for this snowboard design today. I personally know that I need a snowboard brand name. I don't know if you've already thought about your brand name, so maybe it's memes. Maybe it's memes. Maybe those are competing brands. I don't know. We'll see.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
My disappointment scale is just going further and further towards okay, well, I'll let.
ALEX LAZARIS:
Chat name my snowboard for me.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
Okay. Yeah. We do want a lot of Chat participation today because I think it's going to be a lot of fun. But before we get started, make sure that you head on over to the Creative Cloud Express YouTube channel and subscribe to our newest addition to the Adobe Live lineup, creative Cloud Express. Check out how to navigate the easy to use app with Voodoo. Val, who's in Chat. Yay. Val snaps. And if you're hanging out over on YouTube watching the stream, we'd love to have you over here on Behance net slash Live. We are not reading the chat over on YouTube, so do make sure that you come join us over here so that if you are asking us questions, we do see know this is where the cool kids hang out. So come hang out with us because we're fun. And if you miss any of the streams this week, you can watch all the replays right here on Behance. And Adobe Live is hosting streamers outside of the Adobe Live hours, so you can watch everyone else's process and stuff too. Wow, how did I blank on that word? So, Laz, would you like to introduce yourself and your work?
ALEX LAZARIS:
Yeah. Hello, everyone. My name is Alex Lazaris. I am an aficionado of Comic Papyrus and pronouncing memes like meh-mehs, if you've been on Adobe Live before and you see me around. You've kind of seen that stuff as pretty much my go to brand now. I love doing skateboard graphics, snowboard graphics, all those kinds of things. So I am beyond stoked that you are having me on this stream, Sean, so thank you.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
You're welcome. I'm excited to have you because snowboards are fun, and I've never done a snowboard graphic, so I'm excited to do this for the first time.
ALEX LAZARIS:
I'm so excited to see what you come up with.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
I have ideas, so we'll see how this goes. So, to anyone who's just tuning in, we had two streams last week. We had Sidweiler and Voodoo Val on, and Val went nuts with the hockey jersey design we had. So definitely go and check out Val's piece because it's insane. And some of the inspiration behind this was I'm a huge fan of the Winter Games that are currently happening right now, and I am personally a huge fan of figure skating. I'm sure that's news to nobody at this point. So if you guys are watching the games, let us know what you really like watching, because I want to know what everyone's excited about and what everyone is stoked about. But I thought it would be really fun to bring this to Adobe and create a Winter Games themed set of streams. So today we are going to be making snowboard designs based on two different characters that I have illustrated and created personalities and color palettes for. If you want to join in, you can hit the info tab, and there's a link in the info tab to the CC library, which I will pull up on the full screen here, and you can see all of the folders they're separated out by day. Today we are in three snowboards. You can pop in here, see the character prompts. We've got Roman and Sage. So I believe Alex took Roman, and I will be doing Sage, and then we have the mockup. So if you want to draw along with us, download these mockups, and we will show you how to use them. They're very simple. It's very easy to use. You update one layer, and it applies to a bunch of other layers, and it looks really legit. So I am ready to get started. I don't know about you.
ALEX LAZARIS:
I'm so excited to get started. I have a quick little mockup thingy that I did to kind of kick start me, but I would love to walk through what you've I know you built the character prompts and things like that, but I always like to start with just understanding what's happening in the market before I start jumping into these things. So what I've done is quickly just pulled together some of the latest snowboard trends that I've been seeing. Okay, long term, typically successful snowboard designs for the last six years. Seems like a lot of snowboard companies are bringing wood into some of their designs to keep it feeling more natural and less synthetic. And so you kind of have seen a lot of the Solomon boards right now are using wood with color splotches and some grid systems with some fun little typefaces. I think those would probably be pretty inspiring for me. Then I've got kind of this darker theme section where they've got, like I don't know, I would call it, I guess, like, neo gradient, like, the new takes on some of the gradient designs and things like that. Again, still seeing a lot of heavy graphic blocks and things like that throughout some of the graphic images that's the darker versions. And then I'm calling this area kind of like instagram chic, I guess I would say it's got, like an influencer lifestyle type photo where it's, like, filter a palm tree and some filtery gradient things, like, even just like, random photo of human inserted. It feels very instagramy and in the moment. So this is kind of interesting. I feel like that could also lend a hand to some of the directions that we're doing, too. So that's just what I'm seeing in the market and kind of what might guide what thinking, so okay, well, I.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
Actually did research, too, except I did stuff that was older because I've seen a few that I like, so I have it up on my screen and some of my favorite. Yeah, years ago. Dana Tanamachi. Who? If you don't know who she is, she's an incredible lettering artist. She got known early on for chalk lettering. She did these snowboards for Burton that are just incredible. And I don't snowboard, and I would want it on my wall. And then she's also done some skateboard designs as well. And then we've got, like John Quintino did a few designs, and there's some really cool ones out there, but it's very illustrated, very lettering focused, which is what I tend to do. And I thought that could be a fun jumping off point, because I'm thinking in terms of what is the snowboard that I would like to use?
ALEX LAZARIS:
Yeah, these are great. I remember you showing these examples years ago, I think, when we were first talking about doing some snowboards or skateboards together. So I love that you're bringing back the classics. It's great. Those are all bangers.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
Exactly.
ALEX LAZARIS:
Annika says, Insert random photo of human. Note to self. Yes.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
There you go. Yeah. Steve says we must see Teddy Bear He's again. He's on the bed. He's sleeping and napping, and I don't want to disturb he. If he pops over in my vicinity and he's within grabbing distance, I will pick him up. But don't count on him popping into stream today, unfortunately.
ALEX LAZARIS:
Perfect. Well, do you want to walk us through your character? Sage and I can walk us through Roman.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
So, like I said, we've got two characters here. So I have Sage and Sage. This is her first time qualifying for the Winter Games. And she's incredibly excited to perform and do her best for Team Adobe. And she is quirky, adventurous, and eager. And her color palette is like my perfect color scheme. So I'm actually really happy that I got to do Sage and that you chose Roman.
ALEX LAZARIS:
Yeah, I'm super excited. So Roman is no stranger to the Winter Games, a four time games qualifier. Roman will do whatever he can give whatever he can give to a good show and aim for the prize. His personality is wild, energetic, and sporty, and needs a snowboard design. I love that you've already started us off with some really strong color palettes as well.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
Yeah, I'm very happy with these. Color palettes are fun, and if anyone wants to join along, you don't have to stick to the exact color palettes if you don't want to. If you see a color palette in a different character that you really like, go for it. Or if you're like Val with hockey jerseys, you stick to just one color shade of the entire spectrum that you're given.
ALEX LAZARIS:
Yeah. Shall we get to it?
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
We should get to it. So there are two options that you can work on. We do have a standard, just a snowboard outline that you can draw on if you want, or you can work within the mockup itself. So if you want to work within the mockup, there's a folder called Your Content, and you will double click where it says, edit this layer, and you will be able to put all of your art in this folder that says Your art here. So you'll just turn off the demo layer, and then you'll just start drawing on your own layers within this, and as you save, it will update. So if I just do a quick brushstroke through here, we're going to pretend this is beautiful. I'm going to hop over back to Sage, and you can see that the mockup is already updated with the design. So I've made it really easy for you guys to put your own twists and designs in these projects.
ALEX LAZARIS:
Yes, it's super awesome. So definitely join us in this if you want to. I'm just super excited to see what Chat comes up with after this.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
I am too. Make sure you do share your work to hashtag Adobe Winter Games, because then we'd love to see it that way.
ALEX LAZARIS:
Yeah, that's great. I would love a name. If Chat is so inclined today to volunteer some names that they're thinking about.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
No, this could either go really great or really poorly.
ALEX LAZARIS:
Well, I think Memes could be a great name for a snowboard company. Just throwing that out there. What I'm starting off with is just trying to see I've got some images that I pulled from some stock photos sites just to start messing with things and see how it starts to feel saved. To my computer.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
Biola says, oh, where do we get the mockup? If you go in the Info tab, there's a CC library link. You go in there, click the folder that says three snowboards. Click there and you will see a folder that says Mockups. You can download them right from there. And thank you, Val, for linking to it. In Chat, Steve says, I'm usually a skier, but on some days when I feel I haven't violently fallen enough, I try snowboarding. And Wade says, I love Shauna's reaction to the instagram, picturesque one. Oh, creepy. Yeah. Yeah. All right. And says, it's going to go poorly in reference to you letting the Chat pick things.
ALEX LAZARIS:
Oh, chat's always, my friend. They always do such a good job of helping me out when I'm stuck on things.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
Just realized it would help a lot if I grabbed my colors. So I have them in my file here, so I'm just going to copy and paste. So I've got them outside of my layer here. There's also an outline you can turn on on your mockup if you want to, but I'm not going to work within it because I put a color.
ALEX LAZARIS:
Down that will because you're too fancy for that.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
Because I am too fancy for that. Exactly.
ALEX LAZARIS:
I love it.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
But I'm definitely going to go for the lettered illustrated aesthetic. I just have to decide. I was thinking I might do the word pathfinder. Oh, that's cool, because, like, you snowboard down a path.
ALEX LAZARIS:
Yeah. I'm picking up what you're putting down.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
Yeah. Oh, it's not in the Info tab. It's in the description below the video player. Sorry. Thank you, Val. Appreciate it. I clearly did not look okay. So kind of like this. I'm going to go for this darker, darker blue, I think. Turn those off in a moment. So what have you been up to? What's new in your design life on projects?
ALEX LAZARIS:
And I have not, and I really would love to do a surfboard.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
Oh, I can totally see you doing that.
ALEX LAZARIS:
It'd be super fun. There's a brand that I love called Album Surfboards out of Southern California, and I think that they're just absolutely incredible. They do a bunch of really interesting asymmetrical board shapes that make them feel really fun and fresh.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
Surfboards are wild because it's a lot of space to work with and there's a lot of opportunity for design because I grew up in Florida, right near the beach. So I did not ever surfboard, though.
ALEX LAZARIS:
Oh, interesting.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
Yeah, I didn't like going in the water. The rule growing up was like, you couldn't go in pass knee deep, which that was my parents rule, and for good reason, because rip currents and things. Yeah.
ALEX LAZARIS:
Who would have thought?
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
Yeah. My dad came home with a surfboard one day, and so my sister and I would just paddle on it in the pool, and that's about as far as we got.
ALEX LAZARIS:
Yeah.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
We're not entirely sure why he came home with a surfboard, but he did snowboarding, though. I've never done. I've tried skiing, and it was a big fail.
ALEX LAZARIS:
I used to ski as a kid, and then at the ripe old age of probably like, 13 or something, I decided I want to be cool and snowboard. So I did that okay. Ate it a ton and had a lot of fun with it and then have never gone back since.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
You strike me as the type of person who would be snowboarding. Like, every I when I was living.
ALEX LAZARIS:
In California, I tried to go out to Tahoe all the time. I guess I live in California right now, but I lived in NorCal, I guess I should say. How do you like this, Sean? Is this looking pretty good, right? Papyrus.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
Why must you trigger me? So.
ALEX LAZARIS:
I think this is pretty sweet. Let's save this for later on.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
Steve says sharks can still get you at knee depth. Yes, they can. But you're able to at least see them at knee depth because the ground's right there.
ALEX LAZARIS:
I love that for people who are afraid of the water and not wanting to deal with sharks, steve goes, oh, yeah, well, they can still come out of your like you want that fresh water from your refrigerator? Nope. Sorry. Sharks are there.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
Do you stick to rivers because you're terrified of sharks in saltwater? Oh, surprise. Sharks can be found in freshwater.
ALEX LAZARIS:
Exactly.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
Yeah. No, you know what? It's funny. I actually love sharks. I would not want to encounter one in the wild, but I do love sharks.
ALEX LAZARIS:
Steve says I'll buy one, and Voodoo Val wants to ban me again. So off to a great start. I love you.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
Can't ban him. He's my guest today. Can we ban Alex's screen now? That is an option.
ALEX LAZARIS:
Let's see here. What other things do I have? I pulled some wood effects earlier as well. I got some fonts. There's just so many cool things you can do with snowboard graphics.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
Yeah. And I'm trying to think what I want to do because I really like the knockout thing that was happening on a lot of these, too, but part of me really want to do, like, chalk style something. So we're going to see how this goes, but if we're going to do the word pathfinder, I need to decide how that's going to look. First, I was like, what is happening on your screen?
ALEX LAZARIS:
I have, like, a jellyfish photo I got that I thought was so cool, or it's like ink spluts, and now I'm just trying to mess it up with some filters, but I don't want it to be like sometimes some of these filters can feel so obviously Photoshop filtered that I don't want that. But I do want some of the less literal bits. OOH, that's cool. Like scented edges really pops up the.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
I like that orange in there.
ALEX LAZARIS:
Isn't that cool? I feel like there's a nice clash between the color palettes happening.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
Yeah, it's a really nice juxtaposition happening there.
ALEX LAZARIS:
Kind of like the battle between good and evil in Star Wars, am I right? Val hitting all the high notes today.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
All right, here we go. Val was very excited because Star Wars jerseys exist. They do.
ALEX LAZARIS:
Oh, my gosh. That's cool.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
Yes. There's a team in Florida called the Solar Bears in Orlando, and they do special edition jerseys every season. They've got all these special military appreciation, all breast cancer awareness, all those things. And one year, they had a Star Wars one.
ALEX LAZARIS:
That's cool. San Jose Sharks does a pretty good job with what's it called, like, limited edition jerseys as well. They have one that was really cool that they did, like a De las Mortos fired one. It was pretty cool.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
I bet that looked really cool. I love the Diodellas Mortos aesthetic.
ALEX LAZARIS:
It's a great one. Hot up call. Okay.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
Let'S see. All right, I'm going to create a new layer, and I'm going to start flushing out this lettering just to see if I can get something I like. And if I don't, then I just do something different, because we have, like, 2 hours, and especially because we already know how to mock up these. We don't need to have extra time to mock them up. Oh, Steve brought up a where's general Kenobi? General Kenobi is not in Chat. We have a shark upstairs. Okay. Oh, no. General Kenobi isn't here. I hope Fisher hope no one decides to have the high ground. So let's see design. If I have a really good question, I want to phrase it right, because I have it written down, and I know I'll butcher it if I don't.
ALEX LAZARIS:
Is it if you are a typeface, why would it be comic papyrus?
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
No.
ALEX LAZARIS:
Tried.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
I'm judging you so hard. No. If your dream project landed in your inbox, what would it look like?
ALEX LAZARIS:
That's a good question. I think, honestly, right now, because it's so topical, I would love to do a snowboard design right now that would make me really happy. So probably a line of snowboards for some brand, maybe. Solomon? I'm pretty open.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
Okay.
ALEX LAZARIS:
What about you? What would your dream project look like?
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
I've got clients that I would absolutely flip if they showed up in my inbox, which I've been very fortunate that that's happened with some. But the ultimate dream project that if it popped up in my inbox would cause me to just start bawling would be Wonderground Gallery for oh.
ALEX LAZARIS:
What is.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
So what Wonderground is it's located in La At? I think it's Downtown Disney there. It's disney Springs in Florida. I think downtown Disney and Disneyland. Okay. And it's essentially their contemporary art gallery where they have artists doing basically fan art of Disney movies and characters and things, and they create different merch out of it. But basically I would just be really happy to get the opportunity to do fan art for I think this upcoming weekend actually is the last weekend. But the Epcot Festival of the Arts in Florida, they have a wonderground tent where they'll bring the artists out to do signings and everyone, they all debut like a bunch of brand new art that weekend.
ALEX LAZARIS:
Wow.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
And I buy all the postcards I can because I like to collect the art. And it's easy to travel back with.
ALEX LAZARIS:
Yeah, that's awesome.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
But this year was a little harder because all the supply chains are a little backed up. So when I was there, they didn't have a lot of the newer art. So I have a friend who is on deck who lives there to hunt it down if she sees it.
ALEX LAZARIS:
Totally get that supply chains, man. Crazy stuff.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
Yeah, that would be my like, if it popped up in my inbox, I would cry project. What about Chat? I want to know what Chat's dream project would be.
ALEX LAZARIS:
Yeah, tell us. So right now, I'm trying to get my memes to fit, like, half the bottom graphic.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
Okay. I do like the font, though.
ALEX LAZARIS:
It's so nice, right? It doesn't really matter.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
What awful word.
ALEX LAZARIS:
It's two words. Okay. It's mez with the dash.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
Where's the dash?
ALEX LAZARIS:
I didn't put it in there because I'm aesthetically not choosing to put a dash in there.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
Okay, you're making decisions.
ALEX LAZARIS:
Yeah, I'm just going to rebrand them.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
Okay. Okay.
ALEX LAZARIS:
Let's see here. It's pretty fun. I feel like.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
I do like that, though. I like how the typeface all fits together. It's very psychedelic, 70s.
ALEX LAZARIS:
I've got so many fun little I'm going to just make, like, 16 snowboards. Is that okay?
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
Do it. You can make as many as you want, sir.
ALEX LAZARIS:
I love that. Thank you.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
I encourage you. I will probably only manage to do one because illustration will take way too long.
ALEX LAZARIS:
Yeah, that's how I, like, know cheat to win in these types of situations where just, like, start with a great graphic in the background, start with a great typeface and just bust out amazing work really quick.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
Is that typeface from Adobe Fonts or is that from Tantype?
ALEX LAZARIS:
I got this from MyFonts.com, I think, or you work for them. The typeface is called Molina.
M-O-L-E-N-I-L-O. Molinalo.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
Oh, interesting.
ALEX LAZARIS:
You know how they build, like, these beautiful little case studies and stuff and wrap it all up in a beautiful bow. Had such great illustrations in the actual kit that they're presenting. I was like, oh, gosh, it's so good.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
That's how they sucked you in. There's a foundry called Tantype that does a lot of typefaces like that where they're like, that really psychedelic. Like, they fit together like a perfect little puzzle.
ALEX LAZARIS:
Yeah.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
And I have spent too much money buying so many of them.
ALEX LAZARIS:
Oh, yeah. Well, Ono typeco does a bunch of really great typefaces as well.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
Oh, yeah.
ALEX LAZARIS:
They have some surprisingly amazing ones just included with your Adobe Fonts like subscriptions with your Adobe Creative Cloud. It comes free. It's like, oh, my gosh, this is amazing.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
Adobe fonts is so handy. There's another site called Futurefonts XYZ, which is one that you can purchase a font that is in development. Yeah. If anyone doesn't know what this is, what you can do is purchase a typeface that's in development from various creators. And generally the earlier you buy in, the cheaper it is, but you get all of the iterations of it as it goes on. So as they create more weights and italics, bold, et cetera, you get free updates for the remainder of time for supporting this typeface, and the support allows them to take the time to create these typefaces. So I've had a couple that I've purchased through there that have just been real workhorses for me, and one of them is called Gooper. And it developed. It looks like this old, like, 70s kind of like a jelly font, I guess is a way to describe it. But I love it.
ALEX LAZARIS:
That's awesome.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
Let's see we have going on in Chat. Paco says, I don't hate the memes. I think they're growing on me. No, Paco, you're supposed to be on my side.
ALEX LAZARIS:
I missed that. And thank you, Paco. I appreciate it.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
Supposed to have my side. Dang it. Sides and graphic design we have. Jan says the Dream project is creating animated wallpapers for Apple or something. Okay.
ALEX LAZARIS:
Oh, wow. Like a yeah, that would be cool.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
Steve says that he's digging your memes snowboard. Penny says that a Starbucks related dream gig would be what they'd love to see in their inbox. Like, anything Starbucks. Like, you'd be cool with a cup or a gift card or whatever, or just like is there a specific thing that you would just go absolutely nuts for to design? Robert says shoe design collab with Vans. That would be their dream. I can get behind that. That's a good would. What would be really fun is if you could do the shoe design, but also design the box.
ALEX LAZARIS:
Yeah. And the whole store. That'd be pretty sweet.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
Like an like an entire display for this one shoe. That would be ah, Sam's here. Hey, Sam. How are you? Steve says, I'm loving Shawna's font, too. Thank you. I hand drew it. This is just my lettering style and my handwriting style. I write how I letter now. That is what's happened. Hi, Arby. Welcome to the chat. Steve says, we were working with Comic Papyrus again because Laz just can't seem to let that font go.
ALEX LAZARIS:
Underrated typeface.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
Oh, yeah. Apparently. Ryan says a dream would be to collab with that. Is he's? He's a cool dude. Possibly work on some snowboard and skateboard graphics and maybe design some of his famous thick line arts in the chat. Hey, Leon.
ALEX LAZARIS:
Oh. Hey, Leon. How are you? My dream collab is with Sean and Alex.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
Didn't we do a collab? We did a pizza collab, didn't we.
ALEX LAZARIS:
Yeah, we need to do more.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
Yeah, we did it, like, two years ago, but it still counts.
ALEX LAZARIS:
Yeah.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
Let's see.
ALEX LAZARIS:
I'm going to build a grid system and then do some more, like, spacey tech nonsense with this, I think.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
Okay, that works. If anyone's wondering, I'm using my own brushes for this. But Kyle brushes work very well for these projects, just so you know. I just have mine at the ready. But if anyone is just joining in, alex and I are doing snowboard graphics for two characters for team Adobe. We have Sage and Roman, and they both have very different color palettes and different styles. So I'm creating for Sage. Laz is creating for yeah. Arby. I need to design some cool graphic for my pool queue handle.
ALEX LAZARIS:
You have a pool queue handle? That's custom.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
Be cool.
ALEX LAZARIS:
That's sweet. There's so many things, like, I just want to know there's just not enough time in the day.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
I know. You know what would be really fun to do when it's very outside of my wheelhouse, but a beer tap.
ALEX LAZARIS:
Oh, that would be cool.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
There's a agency designer in Jacksonville, Florida I know who? Kendrick Kidd. If anyone knows kendrick awesome. Yeah. Kendrick has done a ton of tap handles for, I believe, the Jacksonville Brewing Company, or Bold City Brewery. That's what it was. He's done a lot for Bold City Brewery. Say that five times fast. And it's a brewery in Jacksonville, Florida. And I think he would get hired through the agency he was working at to do those. I'm not sure he freelanced it. I think it was agency work.
ALEX LAZARIS:
That's cool.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
But he's a very talented, very talented designer. How do you end up with just the handle of a pool queue? I was wondering that too. Is it the full pull queue stick and you just have to do the handle, or do you just have a handle hanging out at your place?
ALEX LAZARIS:
Just seeing Leon asking those questions and all the thought process that Leon probably put into this, just like, why am I stuck on this fixation on the handle? So good.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
He's the real life version of that GIF with all the math around the head.
ALEX LAZARIS:
Yeah, totally. Norman's asking, what's the memes font name? Which one good? Human?
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
Yeah. Comic Papyrus or the other one?
ALEX LAZARIS:
Yeah, I've got comic papyrus as one. Let me turn off these layers again so you can see what Comic Papyrus looks like. It's pretty amazing. That's the perfect blend between the two beautiful typefaces known as comic Sands and Papyrus. And then there is the one for the jellyfish board that is called Millennial. I'm just making up words now. All right, let's see what it's actually called. It is M-O-L-E-N-I-L-O. There you go.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
Millennial.
ALEX LAZARIS:
Millennial. Whatever. Said. I see you in Chat. Thanks for the kind words.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
Alex is the only one who can probably imagine the face I was. Making as well. RV says it's a pro pool cue that is in two. I did not. Did you know that they separate? Because I didn't know that they separate.
ALEX LAZARIS:
Yeah, because I ordered a pool stick before because I lived in an apartment complex that had a pool table right next door to my apartment.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
Of course you did.
ALEX LAZARIS:
And then I bought pool sticks because the ones I had were really bent and I didn't want to play with them.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
If I'm going to play with this, I'm going to really play with it.
ALEX LAZARIS:
Yeah. The joke's on me, though, because I got them from Amazon or something and they were already bent when I ordered them.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
No.
ALEX LAZARIS:
Yeah. I don't like my grid thing that I've been doing yet.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
I learned in the last couple of years that fishing poles come in two pieces.
ALEX LAZARIS:
Oh, yeah.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
Because you buy the actual pole, and then you have to buy the reel. And if you have a collapsible pole, then it goes into, like, four pieces. And if you have really bad luck, you're my dad, and you get a brand new fishing pole and you go out to use it for the very first time. You go to Cast, hit the bimini top of the boat and snap it, and half the pole landed the lake.
ALEX LAZARIS:
This is amazing.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
Got it for his birthday. He was so excited, poor guy. And then that was it. And I think he brought maybe one backup poll, so he was just like, well, that's that.
ALEX LAZARIS:
Leona and I have been trying to figure out how to bring design aesthetics to a go karting team.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
I was wondering if you guys were going to do something like that with how often you've been go carting.
ALEX LAZARIS:
Oh, yeah. We're fully committed now. We are professionals. By professionals, I mean, I'm still asking my mom to sponsor me. We tried to make my racing logo on Stream Gus a couple months ago. And if you want to see more uses of comic papyrus, definitely go check out that replay.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
I froze. Well, last week I had two full streams where not one freeze happened, and of course now I have one.
ALEX LAZARIS:
It's all good.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
Darn it. Well, we're going to hope the weather here really messes with the Internet connections and stuff. So I heard nothing of your conversation post, like, post any of this. And it looks like we may have lost my screen, so give me just a moment to fix that. Oh, looks like I'm back. Never mind. We're good.
ALEX LAZARIS:
Where do you get references for random charts and things? I'm trying to figure out. Like just making up random.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
Trying to.
ALEX LAZARIS:
Make little random graphs chat. Tell me where your favorite places are to look up inspiration for graphs.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
I use pinterest.
ALEX LAZARIS:
Do you really?
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
Yeah. I search Pinterest for a lot of different things. It's very handy. You never wouldn't think so, but once you can get through all the mommy blogs. There's a lot of good stuff. You think I'm joking?
ALEX LAZARIS:
No, I know you're not joking. That's the pain point that I've always had with it is very hard to get through that.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
You have to be really specific. The only time I'm okay with all the blogs showing up is if I'm looking for recipes, because you can't really get around that. Leon says Google.com for graphs.
ALEX LAZARIS:
Thanks, Leon. Always helpful.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
And then I guess they oh, we missed a RV says what brush do they use and what tablet? I'm using a Cintiq 24 inch wacom tablet, and then I'm using brushes that I made. What about you?
ALEX LAZARIS:
What am I using? Yeah, I'm using just an Imac pro and my handy dandy pointer fingers and clicky mousey thingy. I do have a Cintiq Pro, but I'm not using it for this project.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
The 16 inch one?
ALEX LAZARIS:
No, I've got the like is it the Cintiq? The touch screen? The one that's like oh, yeah, I've got that. It's 24 inch, right?
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
There's 24. And there's 32. 32 is, like, massive.
ALEX LAZARIS:
It's pretty big. It's a big I think it's it might be 32.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
Dang.
ALEX LAZARIS:
I know I got spoiled over here. Yeah. I was doing so much photo shoot work and editing work that I needed, like, a nice retouch. Okay. I justified it to myself that I needed these things.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
All right, I do the mental gymnastics of I am guilty of the mental gymnastics. How do I justify this?
ALEX LAZARIS:
Yeah, it's like, treat yourself.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
Yeah. Like, after the last creative south I went to back in 2019, I had a Surface Pro that I was using and everyone had iPads. And they just released the pro at that point. And I was jealous because it took forever for my computer to boot up. And it died very quickly because it was older and everyone was just like, Boom. Start drawing iPad. And so I came home and I was like, I'm just going to go buy an iPad. And my justification was like, the Cintiq keeps me tethered to my desk, but I really like to work away from my desk at times. So I think an iPad would be great, and I'll probably earn back the money it's going to cost me with the next project that comes in. And I did, and I use it probably more than I sit at my desk.
ALEX LAZARIS:
I get that question for you, my wonderful Photoshop expert. Yes. I have recently reinstalled all my photoshop, so I've lost all my preferences.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
Okay.
ALEX LAZARIS:
What is the move that I need to do to click and drag on a layer without selecting the layer behind it? So I've got this really finicky graph, right? And every time I try to click on it, when it's not perfectly clicking the graph element, it's clicking the layer that I'm clicking. If I have that layer selected to click and drag it over.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
I'm trying to zoom in with my.
ALEX LAZARIS:
Computer to see what you're it's like a preference somewhere, and I forget which preference it is, but essentially right now so if I click the dotted lines, I can drag I should be able.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
To drag.
ALEX LAZARIS:
No, it's dragging the image behind it.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
Okay.
ALEX LAZARIS:
So I need to drag just this thing whenever I'm selected on it, every time I select it.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
Sometimes you have auto select. Turn off Auto Select and see if that lets you be more selective with what you yes, I'm smart.
ALEX LAZARIS:
You're a legend. Thank you so much. I have learned so much on this Adobe Live stream already. I hope you at home are also learning along with me.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
Val says I use an iPad Pro and a Wacom Cintiq 16 inch HD. Gosh. What the heck just happened? Oh, hey, Alana. Welcome to the chat. Alana says, used to be about that Wacom life, but now it's all iPad. Yes, I use the iPad as much as I can, and my only thing that I'm waiting for is for Adobe Fresco to support CMYK. Once it does that, I can use it for everything. Penny, that's me justifying everything I buy for my dog. Except she doesn't actually need snow boots and 5 million toys. Yes, they do. Yes, they do. Like, Teddy has a ton of toys and it makes him happy. That's my justification. He loves when I come home with a toy and he gets to enjoy it, and I get to see him absolutely enthralled and happy, and that's good justification. As far as great, yeah, I'm on.
ALEX LAZARIS:
Adobe stock right now trying to find graphs, things that I might want to use.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
Okay, that works.
ALEX LAZARIS:
Yeah.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
Pat says, hey, I still use a Wacom sometimes, but made the jump to iPad life. Yeah, years ago when Wacom had the Cintiq companion. I did like that because I was able to be more mobile with it, unfortunately. It was really heavy. It was a beast to travel with. Great piece of equipment. Just heavy iPad without the case on. I am still absolutely mesmerized by how light that piece of equipment is. It feels like a feather, and it feels like I could look at it and it would snap. All right, so I'm still getting my lettering out here, but I'm trying to chat. What should I put as the elements around this? Because my inspo is this is my inspiration. We got a lot of very illustrated boards. We've got a lot of negative space and a lot of florals. So I'm thinking, like, I probably should stick with the florals. Maybe I can throw some skulls in there. But I don't know. What does Chat think? What do y'all think?
ALEX LAZARIS:
I think your floral stuff is I mean, skulls are cool. Mean, pretty much anything you're going to do is going to be awesome. So just do it all. Just make it like a gigantic buffet of great creative from Shauna.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
A giant buffet. I like.
ALEX LAZARIS:
The buffet kick lately. I don't know why.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
Buffets are great. We have Norman in Chat says, hi Alex, I'm a graphic designer from Lima, Peru, and I'm creating my website as a digital designer. Can you give me any recommendations or advice for the process in construction?
ALEX LAZARIS:
That's a good question. I think anything I think you mentioned it directly underneath it. Anything you're going to make for yourself can be very complicated and you can be a little bit hard on yourself and you don't need to be, I would say the best thing. I think oftentimes designers overcomplicate their website and it makes it very difficult to understand what's going on or get to the information that you're looking to show really quickly. So I would say try to keep things simple. I don't know if you're trying to code it yourself or not. My whole website is built on squarespace. You can use Shopify, WordPress, webflow, whatever you need to do to get the work out the door faster.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
But if you have a behance, you get Adobe portfolio too.
ALEX LAZARIS:
Yep. Behance is going to be a great option for a lot of people as awesome. It really I recommend not wasting a bunch of time trying to custom code your website unless you are like a web designer, just because it's not going to give you necessarily the payback at the end of the day. And if you're thinking about it, like, as a hiring manager, you need to impress whoever's going to look at your resume and portfolio as quickly as possible. So try to keep it as simple and don't spend as much time in the website building as you would building the portfolio pieces that go inside of it. Don't forget that that's probably the most important part of your portfolio.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
Just makes me think of back when I graduated college, we had to build our website from scratch. Like that was the requirement was we had to build our portfolio from scratch. And so we were all stealing stuff from each other's, back end coding. So if one person figured it out, word got around and we'd all just steal it. We helped each other, but we didn't have the availability of squarespace and stuff back then. So I had to have my own custom built site for like three years post graduation. And I cannot tell you how many times I broke my website because I'm not a coder. I know the absolute very basics. So all of these know behance portfolio and squarespace and all that has made my life so easy because I don't have to do a whole lot.
ALEX LAZARIS:
Yeah, I think just know where your strengths are and where your weaknesses are and then get help downplaying your weaknesses and play up your strengths.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
And if you can't do something, don't advertise that you can do it and pay someone to do it for you.
ALEX LAZARIS:
Unless you're really good at figuring things out because there's a little bit of fake it till you make it.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
Yeah, that too.
ALEX LAZARIS:
But don't lie. There's a fine balance between lying and giving your customer a really bad experience. Or sometimes some people will be like, oh, have you done XYZ packaging? And you're like, no, but I've done XYZ other packaging. I can figure out what you.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
Know, I'm too honest. I'm like, no, but I'll figure it out.
ALEX LAZARIS:
Yeah, that's totally fine. Leon says your work is hand down the most important part of your website. The website is just container for it and usually doesn't matter as much. There, I said, I agree. Yeah, thanks for I completely agree faster.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
I had the opportunity last year to do my first children's book ever. And I was thrown into the deep end in the best way possible because it was a children's board book that they wanted to have custom die cuts. And the die cuts, when the book was closed, had to make a whole scene where they stacked and it read as a scene when the COVID was closed. But then when you opened, it still read as it was supposed to. I had to math so much more than I ever do. And every time I emailed my drafts and stuff over to my pub or to my editor, I was just like, if it's wrong, I'm sorry. Please tell me, because I don't know what I'm doing. But it's in production now and they're like, no, it's great. It worked out fine. I was like, okay, I trust you. That's what the production people are for in the background. They fix all the stuff that I can't do.
ALEX LAZARIS:
Absolutely.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
Penny says, yeah, we had to learn Dreamweaver when I got my dreary. Yeah, that's what I learned in was Dreamweaver. We also learned flash. I learned Flash two years before. It was just completely exterminated. I did consider, though, when I was thinking of names for the snowboard, I was like, oh, I could do Dreamweaver.
ALEX LAZARIS:
Classic. Bring it back. I love it.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
Yeah. But then Pathfinder hit me and I was like, that sounds like a witcher sword and I'm here for it.
ALEX LAZARIS:
Did you catch up on all the I'm sure you watched all when I was live, right?
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
I've rewatched it like four times.
ALEX LAZARIS:
Oh, my goodness.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
I catch something new every time. But now it's one of those now it's background noise.
ALEX LAZARIS:
Yeah, I got it. Makes sense.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
Which what do you like to listen to when you're working?
ALEX LAZARIS:
That's a great question. It really depends on the mood and what the project is. Sometimes I'll be just like, Chill, chill, hop, whatever.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
Okay.
ALEX LAZARIS:
Other times it'll be like podcasts. Sometimes it'll be it depends on the level of concentration. If I'm listening to a podcast, I can't do anything where I need to be writing. Then I need to have something like chill. If I'm just in, like, crank it out, get it going, get done, then I'll probably be like hip hop or rap. What about you?
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
It varies. If I just need background noise, I just have like a YouTube playlist of videos that I've already watched before. Most of them are like, by this creator, Mr. Balin, who does stories about creepy disappearances and things. And a lot of them are about cave diving deaths. Really positive, exciting, happy stuff here. But cave diving scares me and also fascinates me and I would never do it. So I have that or I'll listen to Studio Vlogs and things, but it's usually stuff that I don't have to concentrate on. I've not done audiobooks in a long time because I would realize that I would start it and then all of a sudden I'd be on chapter five and I'd have no idea what happened. So often it's just like it's either YouTube videos or a repeat of a Netflix show that's just white noise or a random playlist from my list of playlists. Like if I'm doing something where I don't have to concentrate, I can do stuff that I'll just sing along to. But if I have to concentrate, like you said, there can't be any voices. And the projects will sometimes dictate that too. Like, if I have to do something that's really whimsical, I might put on like movie scores.
ALEX LAZARIS:
Got it.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
And then because Christmas projects come, like, in summer, I am known for listening to Christmas music in the middle of summer.
ALEX LAZARIS:
No way. That's awesome.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
I was in choir in high school. We started Christmas in August. By the time Christmas came, you're just like, I'm a little Christmased out.
ALEX LAZARIS:
Yeah, that makes sense. Proto mono is what I need. Proto mono. Give it to me.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
What about you, Chat? What do you guys listen to when you are working? People are still talking about like, Dreamweaver. They're talking about, I guess, a app what was called Front Page by Microsoft. That was a weird version of it was like Microsoft's answer to Dreamweaver.
ALEX LAZARIS:
Oh, interesting.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
Pick. Squire says, why are you not using Pen tool to fill it up quickly? Because I'm assuming you're asking me. The way that I work is I am a full time illustrator. My work is very textured, very textural based. And when you fill in a path that's like this, where the edges are really crunchy and there's some aliasing happening, let me turn off the sketch underneath. If I do a fill, you get this little halo that happens around it and then right in the middle of the letter, you lose this nice texture that happens where it doesn't completely fill in some spots. So that's why I don't do it. I like doing the long form, just filling it in. It's really good, busy work for me, but it also gives me the look I'm going for. Like, if you want to make things look like chalk, you use a pencil style brush and you just make a lot of like this. I have a pencil brush that I made, but this would look like chalk from far away. So TADA, you can use Kyle's animator, brush. I believe he's got an animation brush that works really well for chalk. A lot of his pencil brushes work really well for a chalk look. So that's what I go for, because my goal with the work I do is I never want it to scream digital. I want it to feel like it's got at least a little bit of an analog feel to it. So there's my long form answer. Kyle says loud, heavy music brings creativity to him and it calms his think. I think Leon mentioned what he listens to.
ALEX LAZARIS:
Oh, no. Just ignore it.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
Jerkin says that they listen to chill music. Kyle says for them it's heavy metal or hardcore rock. Jan says podcasts, sometimes with themes like tech or photography and often to music. Steve does old school jazz with no lyrics. Yes, that is a good option. I like smooth jazz. There's some modern jazz stuff that's really beautiful as well. That just like certain instruments. If I hear it, it just makes me feel really good. All the good feels come out. There's one song I think it's called as It Will Never Be and it's a really beautiful jazz number with just a few different horns, and they all layer very in a really interesting way. It's a lot of interesting chords that happen. Syed says Bohemian Rhapsody while doing work and then doing some beats on the PC table. Wow. Here's Leon's. Neoclassical, melodic, Scandinavian, ambient, black metal and you and I know exactly what he's referring to.
ALEX LAZARIS:
Yeah, of course. We've been talking about bringing Boombox to the racetrack, but didn't want to get kicked out due to his what was that again? Neo melodic scandinavian black.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
Val said oh. Alana says podcast, YouTube videos and Tiesto club life playlists nice.
ALEX LAZARIS:
Oh, my gosh. Is Tiesto still doing his club life? That was a good question. It's a blast from the past right there.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
Yeah. Norman says they listen to chill synth wave instrumental. And Steve says it's Mile Davis or Coltrane that they listen to. I guess I fully support that. And Val says, Shauna, did you mention where we can find the brushes you make? I have not. You can find all of my brushes at Parmesan. They are available for purchase, and the ones I'm using are in the most recent pack I made. And all the brushes that work for Photoshop also work for it. Is it's very handy. What? That's such a cool board, lads.
ALEX LAZARIS:
Thanks. I'm having a lot of fun with it. I got this visual, this little HUD pack from Adobe stock real quick, just so I didn't have to make it myself.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
Smart work. Smarter, not harder.
ALEX LAZARIS:
Exactly. Part of I think just the years of experience just comes down to knowing where to cut corners.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
Yeah, that always brings up, too, like, an interesting conversation in terms of, like, people, if it takes you only 30 minutes, then why should I pay you for 2 hours of work or what have you? Or why am I paying you all this money if it takes you only a little bit of time? And you're paying for the years of experience, not just the work?
ALEX LAZARIS:
Correct.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
I actually have a really great story that is in the medical industry that works in the exact same manner about my grandpa. My grandfather was an incredibly, incredibly smart man, and we unfortunately lost him when my dad was very young, so I never got to meet him. But I've heard many stories about him. And one of my favorite ones is he was a heart surgeon, or he was a surgeon. He was a very talented surgeon who brought over medical techniques from the Ukraine. And he could do an appendectomy in six minutes.
ALEX LAZARIS:
Wow.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
And at the time I don't know how long it takes now, but at the time, that was revolutionary. He could do it in six minutes, but they charged for 30 minutes. So he would do the appendectomy, finish it in six minutes. The assistants would close the person up. He would go have a cup of coffee for 24 minutes, and then he would go talk to the family. And his reasoning was, if I walk out there after six minutes and tell them it's all done, they're going to say, why am I paying you for 30 minutes? Or something clearly has gone wrong because that only took you six minutes. But he's like, you pay me for my years of expertise, not how long it takes me to do it.
ALEX LAZARIS:
I get it. Makes sense.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
Yeah.
ALEX LAZARIS:
So I've got a quote from, I think, probably voodoo Val in here on this board. It says, no more memes, no more fun. Just so you know, you're in here, Val.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
Oh, my goodness. Garriso says, I laughed the other day when my tutor remarked that it was great to see someone sketching on paper and not digital. Everything I've done for my course has been done. Dude, sketching digitally is like it sped up my workflow so much easier digitally. Leon, is that in? You guys wouldn't get it. Is that in response to the music?
ALEX LAZARIS:
Probably.
SHAUNA LYNN PANCZYSZYN:
I'm pretty sure it's in response to the music. So we've got about 50 ish minutes left. So if you guys are hanging out over on YouTube, come join us at Behance.
